Watching this after DBVs❤ episode

Many NDErs are not “saved” as you say and have had positive NDEs. The NDErs who are “saved” often have negative NDEs and that more often caused “fear of hell”

NDE's do NOT mean everyone needs to take religion seriously.. Actually the reverse is true bc if there's one undeniable factor, it's that religions are more interested in increasing their power influence than understanding real spirituality

7:14 Jimmy's name is 'Akin' to aching, but it's not.

Thank you for this video.

Perhaps they do not remember them because the soul does not leave the body which is how is defined death in catholic theology. So no leaving the body = no experience. We do not know when the soul leaves the body even when vitals are nonexistent.

Theres certainly some validity to many ndes. Anita Moorjani had a vivid experience and all her terminal cancer was spontaneously healed which is what she was told would happen in her nde. But then again theres such a wide variety of accounts from hell to Jesus and everything in between, soul groups, reincarnation, aliens, etc and its hard to nail down exactly whats going on.

And what si you know

It bothers me that reality can be manipulated in the spirit to represent what is not real – that entities can show you "heaven" that is not real……that means we can all be duped! There are Christians also in these, so why doesn't Jesus protect them? I've noticed many NDEs are Catholic by belief or upbringing. If these are all demonic or evil entities, explain to me how they can give people incredible experiences of unconditional love, peace etc? The beautiful garden setting that sincere people like Randy Kay went to where he met Jesus is also reported by many others – is this not real? I'm sorry but I can't believe that evil can radiate goodness peace and love

Perfect, again

The NDE phenomenon is fascinating, and the evidence for them seems to be overwhelmingly strong at this point. I'm not sure the final afterlife is being seen in all of these cases, but I think it can be said beyond a reasonable doubt that many of these people ARE receiving preternatural knowledge and are genuinely experiencing real things from outside their bodies.

What I'm interested in is pondering the implications of NDE phenomena for everything else. We tend to cordon different topics off into their own spheres, as if they all pertain to their own separate non-overlapping realities. But that's a schizophrenic view of the world, because of course there's only one reality, and all truths come together somehow.

For example, in NDEs (and other OOBEs for which there are evidence) it seems clear that people at least sometimes have veridical visual experiences of things in the physical world from a vantage point outside their bodies. Even blind people can have visual experiences in NDEs, sometimes for the first time in their lives.

But how exactly? Certainly it's not that photons are being absorbed by their eyeballs, triggering nerve signals that are delivered to their brains, which are then (somehow) generating conscious phenomenal experiences of vision in their minds from them. Somehow they are grasping the forms of things without a physical medium, yet experiencing them in a way very much like the visual experience that is mediated by our eyes.

So what does that imply about physics? At the very least it seems to imply that the mathematical physical abstractions we call "laws" not only fail to describe all of reality, but that they don't capture important facets of even physical reality.

And what does it imply about biology and biological origins? Certainly it cannot be written off as happenstance that animals evolved eyes and visual systems that deliver conscious visual experiences that just so happen to be like the visual experiences we have when disembodied and experiencing the world without any physical apparatus.

Furthermore, I've become convinced that, philosophically speaking, attempting to reduce and redefine the concept of biological function in terms of Darwinian natural selection is incoherent in principle, and always entails an elimination of biological function (thus defining life away entirely) rather than an explanation. But be that as it may, it should be especially apparent that having veridical visual experiences from outside your body after death (or near-death) that are not mediated by your physical body, but that can be remembered and related to others once you return to your physical body, is not something that can possibly be accounted for in terms of environmental pressures.

I don't claim to have the answers here, but it seems obvious that any serious attempt to put it all together holistically necessarily implies a drastic reimagining of how physics works, of how biology and evolution work, and probably much more, or at least requires that we see our present understanding of these things as drastically incomplete and missing very fundamental, relevant aspects of reality.

It also occurs to me that all of our scientific reconstructions and models of various phenomena, past and present, depend on taking our limited understandings of those aspects that lend themselves to mechanistic, mathematical reduction, abstracting them apart from everything else, and then nevertheless taking those abstractions as complete self-contained descriptions of the phenomena in question. How drastically different, or at least drastically more tentative, might a whole host of our conclusions look if we kept a more holistic view in mind?

Thank you for this. I haven’t listened yet but I’ve always wondered about the NDE of Neurosurgeon Eben Alexander and why he was able to see the creator without seeing Jesus. How was Christian’s are we to make sense of this given his account was so believable.

I KNEW that kid who saw Heaven was coached by his pastor Dad. He would always look to his father for approval. There was a crippled Catholic boy who saw angels,etc, and he sounded very believable.

Theres many Hell NDEs on youtube