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Surfing etiquette is a very important part of the surfing experience. It’s almost as important as learning how to surf.
Waves are naturally exciting. They come, they break, and seemingly, the luckiest surfer of the lot gets to ride one to the beach.
But beneath the perceived free for all out in a line up of surfers, there is a complex algorithm being applied, an etiquette system in place to ensure that everyone, from great surfers to beginners, gets their share.
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No etiquette among new surfers in recent years that is shocking. No different than mountain biking and skiing, especially among wealthy entitled assholes. Why should people learns the rules and etiquette of their respective sport when they can simply take pride in their ignorance instead??
Surfing etiquette right when you're out in a lineup with over a 100 people out there in Southern cal.Think they're gonna give you a break. You meant smoking crack.
Localism is the dumbest thing, specially in Australia, unless all these idiots are prepared to accept the only true locals are the local aboriginal people. I had a local old white guy drop in on me in the NSW south coast straight after he caught a wave and came back. Pathetic, I told him there is a good chance his legs will get taken out if he keeps doing that. He stopped.
This is excellent!! I think you should mention that forms who are locals get priority too. But thanks for this video!! ❤ as a 14 year old living in Hawaii, I wait for my chance to be at the front of the line, just for a long-boarder or short-boarder to paddle from a wave they caught right in front of me.
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I didnt know any of this, and definitely got dirty looks today when i went out. I was not sure why. Thanks
When it's not critical I take it easy when it's pumping a bit I generally scope and see who's going deep and how often they make it when they do. It can tell you pretty quickly the pecking order and trust me there usually is one!
Great video! Can you help answer a question for me about snaking? First, my first surf coach always told me to judge the ocean for myself and not just trust that the lineup is in the proper spot for ideal waves. I often find at beach breaks that the lineup is like 30 or more yards from where I want to surf. If I decide to paddle out to a spot on my own, and I happen to catch a wave from farther inside that takes me past the lineup, is that snaking? Like do I have to go surf where everyone is assembled in a lineup even if I think the ideal takeoff spot is farther inside, maybe even down the beach? Second, how do you handle surfers that are ahead of you in line but that let waves pass under them or can’t reliably catch them? If half the surfers are struggling to catch waves, can I grab waves when they come to me? Or do I need to wait for everyone to get their wave at all times?
Got snaked 3 times today. 2 by the same guy. The paddle
Inside your priority kind of snake. Now i know why the term is called snake— i feel a vitriolic poison called hate spewing from my brain. Im curious if these rules apply for long boards and short boards both. I usually sit pretty far out on a long board and find myself on the wave before it even get near the short boarders sitting inside. This guy was a short boarder snd kept paddling inside of me, cutting off my line and taking the wave. This is in pleasure point, sc. ive never seen this guy out before. He seems so arrogant i couldnt tell if he was a local or a total idiot. Maybe both
this video is a public service announcement, good work
Closest to the curl has priority.
Why would you be in priority. I still don’t get this… why do you get to claim a wave…? Makes no sense to me, no one is in line! How would you even know who’s turn it is. No no no no. This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard and after surfing 20 years this never happens at beach breaks. Never! It is a free for all! No one is taking down times of who’s been there the longest, and who’s turn it is. Either you’re in the right place, or you aren’t. Sorry buddy. Times are changing.
send this to learn to surf schools on the Gold Coast and Gold Coast generally.
It’s really hard, I’ve been surfing a week and been yelled at already lol. It’s so hard to know where to be and how to act. Frustrating as it’s not common sense or easy to do at first
I wish that the ettiquette of NOT taking pictures and NOT shared it online or at least the name of the spot is taught massively 20 years ago!! It is kinda late for now when surfing glamour become the purpose of surfing itself. Hhh
Great video, beginner learning alot
Hello, just to say thanks for your videos, I'm fairly new to surfing, and I am trying to get to grips with it, not just how to surf, but the culture, and the frustrations, from basically not understanding. This has been really helpful. hehe, the amount of times though, I've tried to stay out of more experienced surfers ways, and really found a good little safe spot for me, and really paddled hard and though about it, and I've seen someone just checking me out, following me, and starting to make small talk so I loos concentration so they get my wave, or park up right in front of me..haha..to start with I used to think, arrrghh can't you see just how hard I've worked for that, have some grace!! be cool, I'd be cheering you on, now I think I am starting to see this is part of it all, a frustrating part, but a part none the less. I just get really safety conscious though and worry nasty accidents could happen if you are trying to be on top of someone else or trying to distract them, so it doesnt feel that cool. I sort of laugh now, but it did get my goat to start with. haha. x
Horrible advice
i had no idea about snaking the line or that there even was a line about 2 weeks ago starting surfing and i feel horrid now because i remember just paddeling out and catching anything i could and NOBODY told me off i wish someone that day came up to me and explained this stuff
What happened to – Nearest To The Break?
If I'm deeper/closer to the peak but on the inside on a shortboard. And a longboarder paddles into a wave further on the shoulder but is further out who has the priority?
Hang on, Kale. You imply that the snakes are the less-skilled surfers and that it's there for the protection of the less-skilled. Please. Plenty of top-notch surfers snake. In busy places like Santa Cruz it IS a free for all. I appreciate you encouraging communication, I agree and I try to communicate when I'm out there. THAT makes a difference, but for most surfers there seems to be only one rule: who is farthest inside, no matter what or how. This is followed by righteous calls for justice against anyone who dares drop in. Bunch of divas out there.
Amen
You only Jap someone when you intentionally try to limit their take off..I've surfed with another on the same wave and we understood to limit maneuvers because we weren't groms ..we were both laughing going down the line looking at one another and were happy…
aint that the truth!
Hey kale, great videos can you do a video to teach airs?
Go out when no one else is out. Good luck with that.
Sometimes you gotta drop in on a googan to show them how the “etiquette “ works.
TL;DW
Right : me riding the wave
Wrong : anybody else riding the wave
Yooo I’m your 3k like
SoCal rules (at beachbreaks at least) are always "deepest person gets the wave". There is no queue. Best surfers get the waves & the worst get scraps
In my country there are almost never waves. And they are never past the 2 meters (3 times a year). I save money all year round to travel somewhere and surf, localism is bullshit. I’m here for 2 weeks busting my ass the other 52 for it, you’re always here, and paid nothing to do so. If anything I should
have the better waves, they are among the only ones I’ll have that year, for sure the only once that goes past the 7 seconds ride. Also it’s much harder to surf in my country cause when there are waves there are millions of surfers everywhere. Why getting birth somewhere holds any privileges? It’s not. Apply all the other rules of course. Localism is only an excuse, and is a very bad one!
Just say "Yo man, its a line".
The un written rules are only good for the good surfers. If you are not as good as another surfer or don't paddle as strong or fast you will never be able to catch a wave. Hence you will always be snaked or in front of the better surfer ruining their line. Surfing is a Narcissistic individual sport and the un written rules were created by the better surfers to catch more waves. It's better to just move away from the better surfers to another area or you will be watching them catch waves all day.
Lol as beginners you dont know where yoi are on the wave your just trying to catch a wave. Learning your place is something that takes time
Throughout the 90s u could come surf rose but I lived at 5 rose n so every wave I wanted was mine regardless of who was outside. It's that way sometimes.
lo ldont take photos. it think by this stage the secrets are all well known bro. grow up
I don't understand it….I've been surfing 3 months, today a girl was surfing a wave along the whole face while I was trying to get out past the whitewash. I did everything I could to get out of her way and over the wave yet and even said sorry but her response was "get out of my way" even after I said I'm learning she said she didn't care…. bloody Cronulla 🙁 I'll never be accepted here
I'm sick of being a nice person, people just take advantage
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Hawaii: nah we killing instead
Not unexpected, but the worst I've seen is at the Pass in Byron… absolute free for all… even had a guy drop in on me and openly refused to get off the wave despite my several polite 'oi's', such that I had to bail to avoid hitting the crowd as he'd taken a higher line than me, believe he was trying to force me into them… and he continued on. I've come to expect very little in Byron, but that was beyond bad since it was obvious he knew what he was doing, and he was willing to put several people in danger for a wave that was not rightfully his… so agreed, this kind of behaviour is beyond bad
Literally have short boarders comming in from way far away down the line to cut longboards who actually know how to read waves and position them selves. When they realize they are out of position they swim like 50 meters to other peoples lines to try to catch. Then swim 50 meters when they see a nother possible break. So california.
90% of surfers, where I live, will snake at least once on each other. The other 10% are teenagers and will do it constantly. It's more than frustrating.
Love this! My dad always taught me these rules and said it’s the law. Growing up in Hawai’i I’ve seen uncles get super nutz. Not as bad nowadays but they used to aim for you with tank long boards for fun 😂. This guide woulda been so different 15 years ago.
And going to comment before watching. But I'm guessing that this guy has argue with people about what's right and wrong so many times that he's made a proper etiquette video just to make his point right
I do not believe it is "unconscious", specially those who know how to surf. They willingly are jerks taking every wave that comes and totally disregarding the line up. Today I had an encounter with one of those, it wasn't pretty but it was necessary. Yet the jerk continued to take every single wave and paddle back with his "boat" and catching every good wave. This video proves to me that just being closer to the peak doesn't mean "get all the good waves". I know understand why some get to the fists.
In California it is snake or be snaked so as a grom I have to be agreesive because there are too many crowded lineups